Same-sex marriage

The current hot topic is same-sex marriage. As I said in my last post, President Barack Obama “came out” in support of marriage rights and equality for same-sex couples. After listening to a radio broadcast this afternoon in which both hosts were in favor of same-sex marriage, I got to thinking about what arguments were commonly used in defense of restricting marriage to only be between one man and one woman, and I decided to take a shot at knocking every one of them down.

So here are the most common arguments I’ve heard against same-sex marriage:

Bible says it’s wrong.
Okay, that’s cool and all that you respect the word of your religious texts, and I won’t ask you to change that stance. However, our country is not founded on the practice of any particular religion, nor do we have a national religion. If either of those were true, it might be reasonable to think our laws should be based on Biblical laws. This is not the case, though. Instead of putting laws in place because a certain religion says we should, we put laws in place which help protect our rights and provide us with safety. Also, the Bible says not to get tattoos, trim your beard, or wear polyester. I’m just sayin’.

Well, it’s still a religous institution.
Not really. Marriage is a legal issue. It determines who owns the claim to another person’s property should that person die. It determines who can be included in an insurance plan, who has visitation rights in a hospital or jail, as well as other government, employment, and medical benefits. If marriage was strictly a religious practice, marriages between atheists wouldn’t be recognized by the government. If marriage were a religious issue, which religion? Yours? Should people of a different religion than yours be allowed to marry?

Reader comment: “If the church doesn’t want to marry gay couples, they don’t have to. Gay couples could still be legally married (just like many straight couples) outside of a church.” – Sarah C.

Sanctity of marriage
First, what does that even mean? Who determines the sanctity of marriage? If we are concerned with the sanctity of marriage being infringed upon, why is divorce legal? The divorce rate in the United States is somewhere around fifty percent. In other words, half of the people pledging themselves to love one another for the rest of their lives are changing their minds and calling it quits. That doesn’t seem like a very sacred institution.

Tradition
Traditionally, fathers sold their daughters to the highest bidder; whomever could offer the best dowry. Traditionally, white men could not marry black women (and vice-versa). Traditionally, American laws have been changed in light of our ever-evolving social acceptance of minority groups.

Procreation
There are people who will argue that the reason marriage should be restricted to being between a man and a woman is because only a man and a woman together can reproduce. If this were a legitimate argument, one would assume these same people would be opposed to letting infertile or elderly couples marry, nor would they allow marriage between two people who simply don’t wish to have children.

Reader comment: “Last I checked, people can procreate without being married. Do people think gay couples getting married is somehow going to change the birth rate? It might change the number of orphans and foster homes.” – Sarah C.

Slippery Slope
“Marriage is the legal binding of two consenting adults.” There, now we don’t have to worry about children, animals, or inanimate objects being married.

Okay, fine, but call it something else!
Why? If it looks like marriage, smells like marriage, acts like marriage, and tastes like marriage, it’s marriage.

Morally wrong
Who says? You? Does everybody share the same moral view as you? Should every one of our laws be based on what you, personally, find to be morally objectional? Would that be a reasonable way to determine the law for an entire country? If somebody other than you decided every law should be based on their opinion, would you agree with them?

Reader comment: “The simple fact that it wouldn’t harm anyone if your gay neighbors were married instead of just living together. People would go about the same lives with their same personal moral codes, except with marriage they’d be able to visit their sick spouse in the hospital.” – Sarah C.

Sure, what I’m proposing may seem like I think laws should be based on my opinion, but that’s only because my opinion is that none of a country’s citizens should be discriminated against. Unfortunately, I will still be accused of being “intolerant of intolerance” or “discriminating against discrimination.” Y’know what? I’m okay with that. If you can’t tell the difference, shame on you.

Washington, “District of Christ.”

I don’t have any comments yet. Perhaps I’ll edit some in after a while. In the meantime, here’s a video of a crazy Christian who thinks America is (or should be) a theocracy.

For the record the man in this video, John Benefiel, is the same man who believes homosexuality is all part of a scheme by the Illuminati to limit the population.

Y’ever wondered why we induct- why we elect good people to Congress sometimes, and sometimes they go there and they go nuts?

Well, you might too, if all the nation confessed that you were under the District of the queen of Heaven called Columbia. Do you understand how serious that is? When we call it the District of Columbia we’re saying it belongs to Columbia, the Queen of Heaven, and that gives her a legal right to mess things up in our nation’s capitol.

Well, in March of 2010- well, in December of 2009 we gathered one leader from all fifty states to divorce Baal and as we were there we renamed the District of Columbia to the District of Christ. Hallelujah.

Harumph, harumph.

And somebody asked me after we did this, they said, “Well how can you do that anyway?” Well, we just did it! Whaddaya mean how can you do it? You do it! “Well, what authority do you have?” I tell ya I have more authority than the U.S. Congress does.

See, I guarantee ya that that will not forever be called the District of Columbia. It will be changed… by somebody- it’ll be changed by the Lord when he comes back or our Congress, but the body of Christ has to do the changing first! We’re the real spiritual authority, then the natural authority will begin to change!

[ominous music]

A Post-Independence Day Post

People trying to understand what the framers of the constitution meant and who try to stick to that, or Originalists as they’re called, remind me of people who stick to old religious texts and try to understand what their authors meant as a means of finding a way to live today. Both are focusing far too hard on the wrong things. The authors had literally no concept of what our world would look like today, and so their strict meaning at the time is meaningless and unimportant to us in this day and age. We can focus on the IDEALS of the authors when and where they have merit, but what they wrote and why they wrote it is only applicable where it makes sense in accordance with what we know about the world and about human nature in modern times. The major difference is that religious texts are less and less sensible in modern times, and often seen as barbaric if taken literally (and yet religion is not on the decline in the US), while the political texts are still very applicable, as they were written to be so, but this somewhat religious approach to the political texts, while not surprising to find in a country like America, throws an unnecessary wrench into the gears. And those gears weren’t exactly running at 100% in the first place.

The idea that things in the world change and the documents that relate to those things need to be able to change with them seems obvious on it’s face.  In constitutional interpretation it’s called The Living Constitution Theory.  Ironically the religious texts have been interpreted and reinterpreted over and over ad infinitum, which is partly where the Protestant Reform came from, but most Christians, at least, seem to ignore this fact when considering their viewpoint on a given topic.  This is most obvious when politics and religion collide, usually on social issues.  Religious folks will use the same texts to argue against abortion and for the death penalty.  They use them to to argue against homosexuality and gay rights, medical research and procedures, scientific advancements, etc.  However, the bible has also been used to support things like slavery and institutionalized racism, the shunning of science, the crusades and various aspects of World War II, to name but a few.  Most people can take a step back and see how the world has changed and how our interpretations of that world have been forced, often through struggle, to change with it.  If only people would start to take more of an active role in those changes instead of fighting so vehemently against them (and against the course of history!).  If only people would take a step back and try to look at themselves, their beliefs and their consequent actions as objectively as possible before just deciding that they  believe what they believe and they don’t need to think about it because someone long ago who didn’t know very much about the world wrote some stuff down that, I’m told, is absolutely true…to some degree or another.  If only…

04 July 2011 (America sans Bible)

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Happy 4th of July!

Pat Robertson’s flood (OF LIES!)

Pat Robertson famously claimed that the Christian god caused Hurricane Katrina and the subsequent aftermath of flooding, destruction, property and lives lost because of legalized abortion, debauchery, Mardi Gras, and “exposed breasts.” In other words, his god caused a massive flood which killed many because it was angry with a few. Sound familiar?

Yet most people reject Robertson’s claims as nothing more than spiteful and bigoted.

What if the Noah’s Ark account is just a 3,000-year-old exaggeration of a Pat Robertson-esque quote?

I have a zero tolerance for sanctimonious morons who try to scare people.

-Pat Robertson

Thanks Holly for the great title of this post!

New New York

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Congratulations, New York!

Freedom to Marry

Freedom to Marry

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For a long time I’ve been an avid supporter of the Human Rights Campaign and the fight to grant equal rights to the LGBT community. Just the other day I learned my friends at LUSH Cosmetics have partnered with the Freedom to Marry campaign to encourage the US Government to pass the Respect for Marriage Act, which would effectively undo the Defense of Marriage Act, which denies LGBT couples the right to marry.

Along with the right to marry, there are 1,138 rights straight couples have, but which are denied to the LGBT community. Let me say it again in italics: that’s one thousand, one hundred thirty-eight rights that straight couples are allowed but gay couples are not. Here’s a .pdf file that outlines all one thousand, one hundred thirty-eight rights the gay community is denied.

Please take forty seconds of your time today to sign LUSH’s Freedom to Marry petition and pledge your support to the campaign. If you have an extra minute, I encourage you to make a donation to Freedom to Marry.

To visit the Freedom to Marry website, please click here.
To visit LUSH Cosmetics, click here.

Church of Body Modification

Okay, so first I stumbled upon this article about the ACLU fighting for the rights of a teenager at school who was suspended for having a pierced nose. Her defense? She’s a member of the Church of Body Modification, so her suspension is a form of religious discrimination.

Which prompted me to visit the “church”‘s website and submit an application to become a member:

FOLLOW UP
from Church of Body Modification <admin@uscobm.com>
subject CoBM Membership Application
to athdave@gmail.com
(2:20pm)

My name is Chris Carter and I am the President of the Church of Body Modification. I must inform you that your membership application has been turned down. With some exception, this is because you either did not fill out all three essay type questions or you filled out all the questions but with only a single sentence or with limited detail.

Please understand that the application is our way of getting to know potential members and that the CoBM is a legitimate religious organization, a Church. We must make sure that the members we approve will fit in and that they understand, accept, and also follow the beliefs that brings us together. If you are not sure what these beliefs are, please read the Statement of Faith as well as our Mission Statement; both documents can be found on our main website, http://uscobm.com.

If you have any questions, or if you would like help in expressing your feelings in written form, please write back and let me know. I, or a fellow minister, would be happy to assist you. I hope you see this denial as a small hurdle and that, after realizing how serious the CoBM is and how important the membership application is, you reapply for membership. I look forward to hearing back from you.

Thank you,
Chris Carter
Church of Body Modification, President
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Mr. Chris Carter, President of the Church of Body Modification

My deepest apologies. I did not notice the part of your application where it stated I must answer each question with an essay in order to be considered for membership into your church. I thought that for a church whose members find their spirituality in body modification that perhaps “I find body modification to be spiritually fulfilling” would be a sufficient answer to be considered.

I don’t think I specifically included that particular phrase in my membership application (though to be honest, I can’t think of many churches with an application procedure), so please reconsider my application when I tell you now that I find spiritual meaning in body modification, and feel a great sense of euphoria and connection between my body and my self when being tattooed or pierced.

Thank you for your (re)consideration,
(Atheist Dave)
athdave@gmail.com
http://atheistdave.wordpress.com

The countdown is nearly over!

Two days ’til rapture.

So what exactly does that mean? It means a great world-wide earthquake, to start with. As already determined the earthquake will begin precisely at 6:00p local time everywhere. This gives us in Texas and the central United States a good 19 hours’ warning. I’d say that’s plenty of time to get away from large, heavy structures that likely wouldn’t survive an earthquake. Simultaneously, 200 million or so Christians will be “raptured,” meaning their physical bodies will be lifted off the earth and into Heaven. What is yet to be determined is whether their clothes will be raptured with them. In addition, the ground will split open and all of the dead who in their lives believed in Jesus will also ascend into Heaven.

Gross.

Anyway, the rest of us will be left behind – yes, just like in the books! For five months (because the world will cease to be on October 21) those of us who didn’t perish in the earthquake will suffer terribly: war (even without all the crazy Christians?), plague, starvation; not to mention the terrible natural disasters that will happen. This summer we can expect to see hurricanes, tornadoes, mudslides, storms, hail; basically all the same things we see every summer.

I can only imagine all the pissed-off non-Christians who will be left behind. I said jocularly in my last post that we atheists will be all that’s left in this world, totally free of religion. That’s obviously untrue. We’ll still have all the crazy Jews and Muslims, Hindus and Rastafarians. If I believed any bit of this was true, I would be worried about the crazy religionists who aren’t super thrilled about learning that everything they’ve ever believed was wrong. Naturally (and I’m talking about you, Jihadists) some of them will take out their frustrations on the rest of us. No doubt there would still be war. And this time, all the crazy Christians in the US government and intelligence agencies won’t be here to protect us. Which brings us back home.

The majority of the US government and government agencies will disappear. The majority of the US armed forces (Army, Marine Corps, Air Force, et al), FBI and CIA, police and fire departments will be gone. There will be bedlam, anarchy, riots, looting, fires, depression, terror – just absolute chaos. Most of my friends and family will have disappeared. My wife and I, along with a pretty small group of close friends will be left behind and, if we survive the earthquakes on Day Zero, we’ll have to work together to survive the next five months…

…to be continued.

National Day of Prayer

So yesterday was America’s National Day of Prayer and yet nothing phenominal, miraculous, or even kind of neat happened. While it cannot be used to prove god’s non-existence, it can be used as evidence of one of four things:

1. Jesus is a liar and either doesn’t listen to prayer or doesn’t have the power to answer them.

“I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.” (John 14:12-14)

This is a pretty direct statement. This tells me that anybody (who believes this rubbish) could say “In Jesus’ name I pray: please, Lord Jesus, heal all the world’s sick and feed the hunger,” and Jesus would make it happen. And yet nothing of the sort happened yesterday. So this tells me either Jesus is totally full of it, or

2. Nobody believes this rubbish. That’s simple enough, right? Maybe plenty of people prayed in Jesus’ name to end world hunger and sickness, and Jesus really, really wanted to do it, but none of them actually had faith in him so he either chose not to answer the prayers because they weren’t sincere enough, or incinsere prayers don’t reach him. Or perhaps

3. The scripture is just false. Whoever took down Jesus’ words got it wrong. Maybe his actual words were “Pray, and something might happen if I get around to it.” But if that little part of scripture is wrong, who’s to say any of it is right? I know A doesn’t necessarily imply B, but it would certainly make the whole thing sketchier. But if Jesus is not a liar and people really do have faith in him, this is to me the logical next option. Unless, of course,

4. Americans just don’t care about sick or dying people. Not a single one of ‘em. Not any of the faithful Christians, at least. But (and forgive me for suggesting this) wouldn’t that be a little bit un-Christian? And it’s not like Jesus grants his believers only one prayer. They could have asked him to heal the sick and hungry, then for him to give their third wife a flat tire on her way home so she wouldn’t catch them cheating. Jesus is not a genie in a lamp.

If it’s none of those things, then I simply can’t imagine why Jesus would not have answered any prayers yesterday, on the American government-sanctioned National Day of Prayer.

Or one really faithful sarcastic jackass prayed that nobody’s prayers but his own would be answered.